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File Namedm-lastcrusader][.zip
GametypeUT Deathmatch
Date Added09-17-2003
File Version1.00
File Size6.86 mb
Player Count2-6
Map DescriptionNone
Review Rating8.5
User Rating8
Overall Rating8.5


ReviewerAMmayhemAwe Score: 3.0/3
Date09-23-2003Build Score: 3.0/3
Review SchemaCast Score: 2.5/3
User Point: 0
Overall Score: 8.5/10

What?! You haven't clicked download already? What are you waiting for?!

AWE: 3
One word: WOW. I didn't think you could do any better than the first DM-Last Crusader on looks, but here KaMi steps it up and throws an ancient map outdoors. Architecture here is absolutely amazing. Even the added terrain looks awesome, especially how the foundation of the building matches the rock that it sets on. The inset flooring on the outside "terrace" is great. Even the secret room is estravagant than most. Though I did notice, in the second pic, there should be a fourth chain for that small "bridge," but it doesn't show, the brush is there, but it's not seen in the game.

Lighting is superb. The purple lighting, with the added orange flames looks really awesome. Even added the torch lighting effect. Coronas aren't too big, and really fit the small lights on all around the map. It give you a sense that the place is eerie and mystery about it.

Texturing is great too, a couple tiny misalignments, but I had to look really hard for those. Again KaMi uses the Anc and Anc2 texture packs (included in zip) extremely well. The added moss hanging in areas adds to the feel of an acient structure.

The skybox is one of the better ones I've seen. Noctlucent clouds can be faintly seen, I esepcially love the added building that's off in a distance. Even the birds flying around adds to the ghostly theme of the map, as they are a purplish translucence. There are a lot of ambient sounds all over, mostly burning torches, wind, hissing lava, and a few others. Although the added human carcasses made me wonder a little, especially the weird one with the lava texture. Oh well, it's still nicely done.

CAST: 2.5
Gameplay is really fast paced, bots can get around most of the map. I say most, because they never get into the hidden room with the invisibilty. There's a jump spot and some lift exits for it, but the bots never use it, plus it's a little too high for a regular jump, jumpboots would help, but there's none in the map. Flow is great, with many options for exiting an area, some are less obvious because they require you to jump over an edge to the floor below, or similarly use a ramp that's easy to forget about to get below as well. Acouple teleporters also help get from one area to another.

Item placement is excellent, nothing too far spread out. The Keg of Health is in a good spot out over the lava, same with the U-damage, but that's next to a jump pad. About the right amount of health around, the sometimes you may have to work your way to it. I didn't notice much slowness in the map's playability, maybe a small hiccup here or there, so at least be warned if you have anything slower than 1.8ghz and/or a Radeon 9000 Pro.

SCORE: 8.5
Step aside DavidM, there's a couple new mappers in town, and one of them is KaMi, and you can see why in this map. A must have for the hard drive nearest you. Excellent work KaMi, can't wait to see more of your work.

Map Comments

09-18-2003 01:04 AM MDT
Rating: 8 
Well, another fantastic map from KaMi!! Definately has it's own unique visual style, and although it's not as complicated as some of his other maps (LastCrusader and Radstorm), distinct little touches like broken and crooked beams, houses in the distance etc, help to give it more "prescence." It also plays better than many of his other maps, for some reason i just found it heaps easy to get into. . .Overall a fantastic map!!!!

(oh and your score is sposed to be an 8.5 ;))

01-28-2004 02:31 PM MST
THX for the Great Review AMmayhem , didnt expect this score :).
Thanks to all people who apreciate my work :).
Hehe guys LastCrusader]I[ is coming soon :)

Fuzzy Logic
09-18-2003 01:30 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
Wow, this map is amazing. Great visuals and excellent flow make an enthralling experience.

As good as UT gets. Now how about doing some maps like this for UT2003?

09-20-2003 12:28 AM MDT
Rating: 9 
Oh my god! This map completely owns me. It owns me to the Infinite one. Hundred.

This map has it all. The theme is incredible, plus I love that custom skybox, especially with the natural terrain and lightning towers in the distance! The gameplay is great and even the music is fitting! My God, why can't we see more UT maps like this nowadays?! Keep it up!

09-20-2003 03:46 PM MDT
Rating: 8 
Impressive architecture

09-21-2003 06:31 AM MDT
Rating: 9 
This map plays better than the first part and has an amazing aspect.

09-24-2003 02:22 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
What shall I say ... One of the best maps I've played!

09-24-2003 08:13 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
Damn good map man congrats:.

09-25-2003 12:32 PM MDT
Rating: 8 
Archetecture is original and looks good...
Lighting is above average.
Gameplay is pretty good, though a wee bit... dunno.

BTW, you are all saying davidM should say something and that david should move over....
Sorry, but this map hasn't got truley stunning gameplay, and that is what DavidM is about. Well, he sucks at next gen mapping, but meh :P

09-25-2003 01:38 PM MDT
Rating: 7 
Mutch to small!

09-26-2003 03:30 AM MDT
Rating: 8 
Somehow reminds me of DM-Peak...

Which is good, of course!!

09-27-2003 05:31 AM MDT
Rating: 8 
Too small for what? 16 players?

Other than that, an excellent effort. UT really community needs such maps.

09-28-2003 12:06 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
There come's an error that it can'nt find utend.UMX
And i put it in texture's like it said. Some help please?

09-28-2003 02:13 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
The map looks great, with wonderful lighting, sounds are placed well in the map, and textures are great too.
Gameplay is good and the map is fun.
Great Job Kami!!!

P.S- *.umx goes to music not textures

09-29-2003 01:35 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
Hm guy, u got it. Very very nice castle map. very very nice castle map. Its another castle map which is very very nice and very very nice castle map. Yeah thats very very nice castle map. Light--hm like in old good castle map. Maybe all can be much very very nice than very very nice castle map. Cool dude, very very nice map.
Very very nice castle map!!!!!:))))))

09-30-2003 07:20 PM MDT
Rating: 8 
Great Graphs and the flow is O.K as long it is not to crowded. Nice tower, but i cant play thre.

10-15-2003 08:00 AM MDT
Rating: 9 
sorry kami
I can just rate this map from the screen shots cuz, my p.c is not so god at all

Building scores are great , architecture is fine too
I see that's lot of time here

Hmmz this is not a regret for deathmatch people
I give this a 9 because the gameplay looks good too, but I'm not sure :)

I played this by a friend and i am also happy with the results.
Now I know that this map received a 9 , Detail like the person on the top, is cool. architecture is original and looks good. keep it at work!¡!

10-02-2003 01:54 AM MDT
Rating: 7 
Good job. Nice weapons placement. Good flow of gameplay. Why do I think of UNREAL and "Sunspire"? Worth a download. To add to that I downloaded "LastCrusade" and it's probably better than this one. Bigger...

10-03-2003 01:03 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
hahaha, i have seen Indiana Jones!

10-03-2003 10:30 PM MDT
Rating: 8 
sweet map as far as architecture and theme goes.. it literally made me go wow. flow is a little weird in some places but nothing that truly detracts from the gameplay!

10-05-2003 12:29 AM MDT
Rating: 9 
q pex my friend´s!
wow!...con mapas como este todavia le queda vida a nuestro queridisimo unreal tournament, espero q asi sea por mas tiempo(mientras llega ut2004.
pero por el momento:"q viva el rey"

10-05-2003 04:13 PM MDT
Rating: 10 
This map is fantastic!
yet as we see on pic 2, there are 2 bright objects in the sky. I can tell one of them is the moon but what is the other? another moon?
Im gonna play this map over and over and over. thx so much for keeping this great game alive.

Fodder McFly
10-10-2003 01:39 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
Holy carp! A map like this a good reason why Unreal Tournament will NEVER get old. NEVER! What a fantastic map! Awesome design! Keep the maps comin' KaMi!

06-17-2005 02:29 PM MDT
Rating: 8 
I give it an 8, although it doesn't run too good on my rig.

10-10-2003 11:36 PM MDT
Rating: 8 
cool map, good old ut again
just kinda steep slopes and too many powerfull items too close to eachother on the top, but the main prob i had was that the unity got kinda fuxked up at places
like the glass ? rather out of place, same goes for certain other things, its disrupting the maps style sometimes
also, how can those old hanging plants hang at 45 degree ?:) it has to follow gravity, and its a hanging object with the gravity point on top, so.. :)

certainly not a bad map, not interested in ut2 maps since you keep mapping for ut ?

10-11-2003 09:47 PM MDT
Rating: 8 
nice map though gameplay could have been better and i saw a bot get stuck at one teleporter... also you can see the stars through the moon O_o

10-12-2003 08:27 AM MDT
Rating: 10 
Wow! What a map. I like it very much. Everything looks great. KaMi go on and make more maps. I like your style.

10-15-2003 05:40 PM MDT
Rating: 9 

When i first saw the name i thought... oh god not another suck a** rip off on a map... then when i played it i found that it was quite nice. Great theme, and quite fun. liked the music, and the atmosphere in the SECRET room... problem,... the access to the secret room was kinda odd, seeming how you have to hurt yourself to do it. another problem i saw was the lava colored ... thing. I didnt quite understand that. The bots played well, except if you hit them with a rocket to the little area behind the stairs sometimes they get stuck... i like this map quite a bit because it presented a neat feeling... optionally i think that you should add some more to the tower... I found a rather strange error... after playing the map for about an hour i used cheats to look at more aspects of the map. i discovered that if you land just right into the lava, you will pass through and hit the ground. You cant walk, and if you try to shoot yourself out you will fall through the ground and go into some scary looking area. also the lava is a gas and you fall through it. strange, but im not holding you for that...

altogether, this map

A must for any UT player on Deathmatch

... damn when i think of something ill put it here...

My final thought

-great map, great theme, great action, strange lavaman 0_o

10-17-2003 06:27 AM MDT
Rating: 10 
I never usually play Deathmatch because most of the levels suck. This has brought new life and excitement to the deathmatch mode. I love the building in the background and your attention to detail is amazing!

10-19-2003 03:25 AM MDT
Rating: 9 
I'm back from the grave...

It's been awhile since i've reviewed a map... sorry for this... But, I have found a worthy map to review on!

One word describes this maps visuals... AMAZING. It plays on every part of my soul. From peaceful to tortured. Although.. I have found that the bots do not do all that well on this map.. And a bird gets stuck on a wall frequently (no point deduction for this). This is a very powerful map. I applaud the maker! Thank you!

10-22-2003 01:56 AM MDT
Rating: 10 
Holy ****! I had not run UT1 in quite a few months, was thinking of uninstalling it... this reminded me what splendid things can still be done with it. ;)
Did anyone but me notice the damn BIRDS are semi transparent? And colored red too...
All in all an incredible map meant for ppl who like 1on1 type games,..not spamfests.
I truely truely hope to see you making some stuff for UT2k3 Kami! please!!!

10-23-2003 04:09 PM MDT
Rating: 10 

10-25-2003 08:38 AM MDT
Rating: 9 
Good job KaMi!
All in this map looks great!

10-25-2003 09:15 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
Awesome map KaMi, keep up the great work. :)

10-26-2003 06:14 AM MST
Rating: 3 
BAD BAD BAD map ,bad game play.........
why is it so: WOW?

10-27-2003 01:18 PM MST
Rating: 10 
Oh Yeah!, THIS MAP ROCKS!, GREAT!, yeehawwhah!
UT 4ever!

10-31-2003 03:05 AM MST
Rating: 10 
First let me say that when I looked @ it I thought this is a new map 4 ut2003 cuz the texture is unreal ...then I was really surprized that you can do such good work with the old ut I give it 5 stars *****
and 1010 but I wished it was more roomy *&^+(%$ I like large maps .
thumb up
I would like to see some laaaaarge ctf of yours....
and by theway the ctf map shook is nice but the bots have a problem hehehe they get stuck just pass the blue gate and thy like to camp where the shock rifel is
quest is marvlus

11-18-2003 02:57 PM MST
Rating: 10 
Congratulations for this awesome work!

11-24-2003 03:00 PM MST
Rating: 8 
This map RULEZ!!!

01-28-2004 12:44 PM MST
Rating: 9 
"[**clap**] [**clap**]"...


although this map is for DM mostly i think it be better for 1on1 lms... just my thought other than that..

mama mia..

plz KAMi show us more!!!

01-28-2004 02:28 PM MST
Rating: 8 
well it's bit after the fact for a comment :p but i'll chime in here anyway... kami pushes that *bar* up more than a few notches each time out. He's got great imagination at work and combo'd with -=skillz=- makes these maps u die a lot in cause u can't stop looking at the leet archy LOL! okee, the bot-play is good but not stellar, so my call: gameplay = 7, placements = 7, visuals/sound = between 8 and 9.5, so i'm giving it an 8 too (cause if we all say 10 then he might slack off :P ) Maps like this keep UT fresh and contempory... keep em comin' dude, u rock!

09-04-2004 08:24 PM MDT
Rating: 9.5 
sorry =]sfh[=python dude , but you're the only one who're think is not better.actually try Captain Team Game mod or Bazooka Tag....Is actually pretty fun...This map is a masterpiece , a UT2k4 like , Very nice Kami!! Keep it up!

Shiiiiit Ghostwheel and both are a Map noob , rating 10 for your comrade and for other people rate a Fucking Score below 5!?

damn fucking retard.....

09-03-2004 06:31 AM MDT
Rating: 10 
A 10 for that misery 2...
This map simply owns!

Ghostweel then go to play Andaction and ThronsVxxx for u these maps are 10 cos all people play on it...

05-24-2008 10:31 PM MDT
Rating: 6.5 
Runs too sloooooooooooow,Way to slow,didnt really dig the graphics that much,had some cool things in it though,But I will say the fps coulda been cleaned up alot !! if it didn't have the surrounding lava,type mote.
And whoever says I need a faster system,get a life.
I know poor fps and this is allmost unplayable (using opengl ,compressed textures) ti4600.
And anything above a 7.5 for this map is not good.gameplay just isn't good specialy online.

Well I stand to be corrected,it was slow online and I dont see anything in this map that would do that either,but it was.There is only 3 movers,and after looking at in the editor,he did pull off some rather complicated brushwork,but just like that sun in the last ctf map he did for ut04,the moon here has a black square outline,must be a renderer-driver issue,i don't know.
But this map would be so much better if you didnt fall off the edges.FPS was fine.still a 4,but the mapper gets a 10.

Basicaly, if a bunch of you were to play or download and get "oldskool" mod, and some singleplayer map packs, you could see maps that are for looks and not DM.This is not a bad map, but for DM it should be redone a tad.
raising score to 6.5

09-03-2004 01:43 AM MDT
Rating: 7 
I prefer LC3 to this one. If it had a tech theme or some other generic location I'd give it a 6 or a 6.5 but the environment is pretty fresh and interesting so it gets the up'd abit. LC3 is a better one as far as gameplay goes.

Redfist: I don't get any lag when I play this, playabilty is fine for me. What are your exact system specs?

09-03-2004 11:04 AM MDT
Rating: 8 
LOL redfist..
upgrade your computer dammit ! >_<
mines the shit and it runs this map perfectly
lol.. you guys make me laugh.

as for the map.. i love it, for me it brings the feel of 2k3 and 2k4 map quality to the original UT.

09-03-2004 11:38 AM MDT
Rating: 10 
click the download button

Evil Snack
09-03-2004 07:21 PM MDT
Rating: 10 
Stunning graphics......great gameplay......what more could ya ask fer?!A GREAT MAP DOWNLOAD NOW!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09-08-2004 10:54 PM MDT
Rating: 10 
Three words:

09-09-2004 01:44 AM MDT
Rating: 10 
Maybe you should compile all three "DM-LastCrusader"s into one great mappack.

09-10-2004 12:52 AM MDT
This map is like a Hooter's girl on my computer...look all you want but don't touch ('cause my computer is ancient). The only one that plays relatively smoothly is the first one. I do like that indentation in the floor that forms a pathway, though, but what's with the boss made of lava that's dripping?

02-05-2005 10:11 AM MST
Rating: 9 

02-05-2005 02:02 PM MST
Rating: 9 
hmmmmmmm if almost every1 GIVE a 9 i do it 2 :P:D

02-06-2005 10:56 AM MST

After having read the enthusiastic comments about this map, I downloaded and tested it. Well, I have to say that I was somewhat disappointed.

The main problem is low FPS. I have a fairly decent setup (AMD Athlon XP2000, 512 MB RAM, ATI Radeon 9600 Pro) and yet there were several places in the map where the FPS dropped below 50. Most other maps I play have FPS between 100 and 250. This map may look superb, but IMHO a map is for *playing*, not for sightseeing. Also, I detected several HOM effects (ok, they are not so serious as to interfere with play, but a map rated at 9-10 should not have any). The skybox is not faultless (as noted by others, too): The moon does not occlude the stars properly, the background of the sky is not uniform (there is a faint red glow on the sides). The purple lighting praised by some people has no apparent source. There is a blue sun rising on the horizon, but the shadows cannot originate form this source because they are cast in the wrong direction. Also, there are a couple of minor misaligments in the textures.

In conclusion, I tend to agree with Redfist. I would say that this map is not exceptional, and deserves an average rating of 5 only. DavidM has nothing to be worried about yet :-)


02-06-2005 04:18 PM MST
Rating: 7.5 
Hey Speaker

I play very fine with my comp

04-04-2005 03:19 AM MDT
Rating: 9 
KaMi makes some awesome maps and this is one of them, the best in the LastCrusader series, i mean the atmosphere and level design are just stunning and the map flows perfectly. The Bots work great as well.

If you want ace UT maps, then KaMi's are the one's to get for sure.

04-04-2005 09:33 AM MDT
Rating: 9 
its an awesome map,
i like the textures
the skybox is really nice
that unreal music brought some nice memories to me :)

05-07-2005 10:11 PM MDT
Rating: 10 
a 10!!

Full house!!! congratz Kami!

05-08-2005 07:33 AM MDT
Rating: 9.5 
almost perfect ... i cant put a 10 because nothing is perfect in this i said this map is almost perfect , i really apreciate your theme and the concept of your map ... AWESOME , MUST DOWNLOAD

Daramus Research
06-02-2005 05:48 AM MDT
My congratulations , KaMi. I played your
DM-Griffin in CBP2 Bonus Pack , its cool too.

You are really perfect mapper.

06-16-2005 06:43 PM MDT
Rating: 10 
Best Map: Also Best one KaMi made so far:

To bad there arn't more good mappers:

06-17-2005 11:44 AM MDT
Rating: 9.5 
This is not a map. This is Art!!!

08-17-2005 08:03 PM MDT
Rating: 10 
One of the best looking maps I know.
The layout is not sensational (It always reminds me of Barricade - floating castle...) but the solid way the geo is done makes other maps look like build with marble colored plastic pieces. This one looks like it is "real". Really great!!

02-28-2006 09:55 PM MST
Rating: 10 
omg, You've got some nice 2-D shapes in there...There's probably nothing I can think of that is bad about this map...Nice Work!!

03-01-2006 03:05 PM MST
More out of curiosity than anything else, I wanted to get some other opinions.

From what I understand of the 'Review Schema', the final point is awarded by the community.

This is fine, but...

If the average user score has to be higher than that of the review, and assuming, like this map, that the review is high (8.5 in this case), are we not essentially forcing people to just slap a 10 on their rating?

In case that's a little tough to follow, I will follow with an example. :P

Two maps - one review scores 8.5; the other 9.

Assuming they are both great maps and everybody wants to give them high scores, it's going to be easier for the average to be higher than the 8.5 map than it is the 9 map. In essence this means the lower scored (therefore not quite as good) map could be allocated the extra point, giving it 9.5, but which would be the better map?

I have waffled on for way too long. Just wanted to hear your thoughts. :D

05-23-2008 10:29 PM MDT
Rating: 9 
I would say "This is one of the best DM Maps I've ever played", but that would be an understatement. :)

Runs slow, but that's because of my crap Pentium III and measly 64 MB RAM. I won't count that against it, though.

05-25-2008 06:19 PM MDT
Rating: 6 
looks 4,5/5
gameplay 1,5/5

sry, the map looks amazing, but it plays so horrible, hardly any flow to be found imho.

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