DM-Timeless
Map Info
	File Name dm-timeless.zip Author ADES2 Gametype UT2k3 Deathmatch Date Added 04-24-2003 File Version 1.00 File Size 10.28 mb Player Count 8-16 Map Description None Review Rating 5.5 User Rating 7 Overall Rating 6.5
Review
Reviewer Hourences Awe Score:  2.5/3 Date 05-23-2003 Build Score:  2.5/3 Review Schema Cast Score:  0.5/3 User Point:  +1 Overall Score:  6.5/10 An Awesome map set in the middle of a nuclear explosion One of the coolest themed UT2k3 maps I saw up to now. You are playing inside a crater of a nuclear explosion. The playing field is lined of by the huge shockwave cloud, and in the middle you got the big mushroom cloud. The time stopped in the map, so everything is frozen. You see debris hanging in the air, palm trees flying away, buildings collapsing, etc... There`s a nice amount of detail going on in this map, such as the tank that`s being pushed over by the shockwave. The tank model is not just rotated a bit, but it really has the tracks closer to the armor on 1 side. The whole map is made in black and white, even the items and ammo laying around. Cool idea, and barely been done before. The whole black and white feel of the map adds to this surrealistic feel of timelessness and destruction that hangs in the map. Light is a bit simple, ofcourse there is only white light, but at times I feel like there could have been more contrast at some places. It`s a bit washed out. There isn`t any color, so the contrast should come from the shadows and dark spots, and that`s what I lack. Unfortunately, the gameplay isn`t exactly awesome. It`s just a big field, with stuff in, and you walk around, over some broken buildings and the terrain, and shoot each other. Rather boring. There`s no floorplan, not much z axis fighting, and you can barely predict your enemy. It`s just dodging and jumping around while shooting. I think if the author would have executed this concept on a smaller scale it could have been a top map. For instance by only making the inside of a building that`s getting ripped apart, then it would have been much easier to implant a decent floorplan, and you can add more little details as well Groovy map to walk trough, but not for playing.
Map Comments
SealClubber 04-25-2003 12:17 PM MDT Rating: 4   If any map is aiming at capturing a moment, this is it! Doctor Nick 04-25-2003 01:05 PM MDT Rating: 8   4?!?!?!?! 4!?!?!??! This map is art. donator 04-25-2003 06:27 PM MDT Rating: 9   Art. Thanks. I was really searching for words to describe it. This map is a beauty... in a frightening way of sorts. I'd rate it a straight 10 if it was as stunning to play as to look at. I don't think anyone will ever be able to come up with a more unique looking location to frag. Period. EZkeel 04-26-2003 06:50 PM MDT Rating: 8   Its maps like these that keep things fresh and interesting. It might not be the best gameplay, but I think that the concept and execution of the idea more than makes up for it. Awesome work! Bot40 04-27-2003 05:56 PM MDT Rating: 6   Easilly the best concept for a map I've ever seen. It's scary just to fly around the map. Can only really give it 6/10 because it has no gameplay whatsoever, but it's easily well worth the download, even if it's just to fly round the map for 2 mins and appreciate the atmosphere. LondonsDArkestChild 04-27-2003 06:41 PM MDT Rating: 7   Absoluetly fantastic- like people say, the gameplay isnt up to much, but then ur not really concentrating on killing the other guy wen ur dancing around a frozen mushroom cloud. Makes you wonder what it would be like if you were actually there. Worth having just so u can fly about sending chills up n down ur spine. btw, the screenshots REALLY dont do the atmosphere justice DeRailer 04-27-2003 10:55 PM MDT Rating: 5   I've to agree the shots don't do the map justice. Ingame is pretty cool, fighting in an environment where time stood still, classic. I'll give the ambiance full score, but the lacking of a proper floorplan is not going to make the map a keeper. It's nice to look around until you realize there's really nothing else to do here. Off my HD, but props to the author for such an artistic work. BangOut 04-27-2003 11:12 PM MDT Rating: 5   artsy Fuzzy Logic 04-28-2003 10:20 AM MDT Rating: 8   Excellent map. Despite gameplay lacking a bit this map scores highly due to originality. Nice work :D Luggage 04-28-2003 04:59 PM MDT Rating: 4   Most original concept ever, and superb execution. Too bad it plays like a box. The_Real_Meneer_Aard 04-29-2003 08:53 AM MDT Rating: 8   wow This is the most beautiful ut2003 map i have on my pc. The theme and the execution gain an well deserved 10. the bot support sux but it is not unplayable at all. Problem is this: Assertion failed: nodeIx >= 0 && nodeIx CollisionNodes.Num() [File:UnStaticMeshCollision.cpp] [Line: 894] History: UStaticMesh::TriangleSphereQuery - AddStaticMesh - KTriListQuery - KUpdateRagdollTrilist - KTickLevelKarma - TickAllActors - ULevel::Tick - (NetMode=0) - TickLevel - UGameEngine::Tick - UpdateWorld - MainLoop ... WTH AT THIS MAP!!! can any1 help me plz? Claw 05-23-2003 07:30 PM MDT Rating: 6   Impressive. FDaniel 05-23-2003 10:57 PM MDT Rating: 8   Amazing... :o SirTahngarth 05-24-2003 01:18 AM MDT Rating: 3   Well, its better than BWMapPack... but its still no fun, at least not to play in. Squeek 05-24-2003 05:41 AM MDT Rating: 8   This should be a flyby for some cool singleplayer mod! It looks scary :o Nilash 05-24-2003 05:44 AM MDT Rating: 7   :{} _GMotha 05-24-2003 03:52 PM MDT Rating: 6   Originality: 10 a shame the gameplay isn't perfect OMGTTFS 05-25-2003 01:14 AM MDT Rating: 6   yes beautiful but game play needs help. One major error I noticed: you can shoot through, but not walk through, the actual blast. This may or may not have been intended but it hurts game play either way by giving bots an unfair advantage because they know exactly where you are on the other side of the blast but since you cannot see them you can't return fire and they could shoot away at you all day. Still, the atmosphere is probably the best I have ever seen with the black and white adding just the right effect to make you feel like you're back in time, maybe during the cold war days and something went terribly wrong. Hats off to the mapper/artist. deathdragon 05-25-2003 11:57 AM MDT Rating: 4   the thing looks like you are in a tornado or a time glass. it looks coll and stuff. its a fine map slab 05-28-2003 10:43 PM MDT Rating: 6   Have to agree with everyone else on this one... fantastic idea, poor play. It's actually kind of bone chilling to fly around. I did notice one spot of color on the map. Go 180 degrees opposite the Russian tank and you'll see two metal plates in a shallow inverted V formation... there's one lonely, green plant underneath. I had to chuckle when I saw it. I'd love to see this map redone with either more buildings or a much more extensive bunker system... I'm greedy, gimme both. Congrats to the author - Great concept and execution. I think you've captured the essence of nuclear horror. Wish I could give it a higher score but the lack of gameplay is a serious minus. Cloudwing 05-29-2003 05:35 PM MDT Rating: 9   Truly a great map. Yeah, gameplay isn't anything special, but this map is just damn cool and unique. D/L it now!! Please make more maps like this, maybe even in color. This is truly a work of art. One issue though: you can't tell what weapon or ammo it is until you run over it. Surprise!! Shig 05-29-2003 11:26 PM MDT Rating: 8   Theme and Visuals: 9.5 Gameplay: 4 Gameplay is NOT the point of this map, so it don't matter. I totally agree with everyone above who says that you should float around this map for hours taking it all in. Coupla problems: weapons and ammo, what's what? But this is another gameplay vs theme question, so it's moot. Hit detection on the busted down building. Parts where there is no wall, but it's solid. Blew myself up on that once or twice. My personal favourite is the water tower, woulda been damn cool if there was actually water gushing out of it, but i suppose it's instantly vapourized in the explosion anyways. So get it, fly around, we can all take a lesson from this in the "attention to detail" department. bossman 05-30-2003 04:29 PM MDT Rating: 10   real original.... my next map on the way, i havent seen some1 do it be4 so i think its original The Twiggman 06-01-2003 09:43 PM MDT Rating: 7   Well I'd rather have this as a desktop background than a deathmatch map. But whatever turns your crank. lol, ya its not that bad, I like the theme though. Mann 06-04-2003 11:16 PM MDT Rating: 10   Cool map, great theme. The black and white scene is awesome! Please make more! SJAndrew 06-07-2003 01:00 AM MDT Rating: 5   I couldn't wait to play this map. What an original idea! What a cool environment! After playing once, I've never played again. Even just decent gameplay combined with thie extraodinary idea would garner at least an 8. As is stands, it's all flash and no substance (unbfortunately). I also had problems with weapon pickups. There were none on the map when I played, only ammo. But, I would gather weapons every once in a while by accident. They were invisible....weird. rbrohammer 06-19-2003 08:47 AM MDT Rating: 5   Worth the download. Play w/ Invasion only, though. SPoT 06-24-2003 03:33 PM MDT Rating: 2   I myself would rather play a crap looking map with good game play than a fantastic looking map with none. This has none. Seeing ratings of 8 for this is just weird. I give it a 2 because it looks good. The play just plain sucks. Im sure alot of work was put into it, but that doesnt justify a high score.