08-08-2004 02:07 PM EDT
|Rating: 9.5|| |
|There was no comments on this guys work at all only a few.And I give him the 9.5 cause it's a cool find and the "effort" that has gone into rehabing another engine-game levels.And some are still fun to play DM .|
Now that I see how nalicity community is guess I'll whip out the staticmesh machine.
08-07-2004 05:35 AM EDT
|You know, a better remake is one that changes the theme and / or ups the detail, rather than leaving it exactly the same. If I wanted to play a Q2 map with the original fugly textures and lighting, I'd go and play Q2.|
08-07-2004 08:00 AM EDT
|A remake is a map from an older game which has been redesigned to fit the new game.|
What YOU are talking about is a copy.
08-07-2004 08:55 AM EDT
|Ghostwheel: YAY! Welcome to the Redfist and Ghostwheel TV show!|
Redfist: The show where we review remakes of maps and games!
Ghostwheel: Later on the show we will be looking at UT2k4, a remake of UT2k3 but with additional content.
Redfist: I dunno folks, all that original content and improved gameplay sounds like a really bad idea to me, it's bound to fail.
Ghostwheel: Yeah, but for now we take a closer look at dm-q2dm6 for Unreal Tournament.
Redfist: Yes, while we were searching the nalicity database for remakes we came across this gem of a map. A remake of the Quake2 map with the same name, this map goes back to 2001. Immediately we knew we had to resurrect it from the dead to make sure we could continue the remake flamewar.
Ghostwheel: Too right! Now, onto the map itself. Firstly I would like to say this is not a remake I am too keen on. For starters it has a screenshot while the original didn't which means it's not staying true to the original. Plus the filesize has changed during the conversion.
Redfist: Yes, major points there, plus also I noticed in one point the texture on the wall was 4 bricks high instead of 3 bricks. Important details like this are very important when doing a remake and can make all the difference in the score.
Ghostwheel: I also found that one doorway had some trim to improve the visuals in that spot. I wasn't happy with this at all since it makes the map look better.
Redfist: So, onto the gameplay side of things. Firstly, I wasn't keen because there was no quake2 weapons and the movement was different. You won't find much joy playing this map online either because UT's netcode is much more stable and efficient than quake's so the gameplay is far too smooth and enjoyable.
Ghostwheel: I agree entirely. I also found I had to turn my detail down to minimum and 16 bit colour at 40x30 res to achieve the true quake feel.
Redfist: Overall, this is a pretty bad remake. It doesn't stay true to the original in most respects. I was especially peeved at the bricks being 4 high instead of the more unrealistic 3 high. What you reckon ghostwheel?
Ghostwheel: Hmm, I don't like this one too much, doesn't compare to the original quake in most respects.
Redfist: Yes, so overall I think we'll have to give it a 9.5/10 because we both love overrating mediocre and bad maps though there are still some things that need DE-proving to get that elisive 10/10 score!
Ghostwheel: To everyone else out there, stick to Quake2 :)
08-08-2004 08:08 AM EDT
|Rating: 0.5|| |
|That comment belongs in the "Top 10 Comments" if it existed.|
Now for the map:
Repetitive textures all the way, no trims, bland lighting, basic archi and it's a remake. Greatest fun was deleting the map.
08-07-2004 06:51 PM EDT
|LMAO @ Bot40|
08-07-2004 07:02 PM EDT
|Rating: 0|| |
|and redfist gives himself a 9.5!!|
looks that way to me, ORIGINAL maps for ut please.
08-08-2004 07:47 AM EDT
|Rating: 0.5|| |
|redfist, how people rate this UT map has absolutely nothing to do with how the map has been transfered from a different game. |
people rate maps on playability, visuals etc... not on the basis of " oh, this map looks exactly like it did in *whatever game* so ill give it 10 "...
You gotta realise that people in the UT mapping community dont want old maps from games possibly older than themselves, they want to see new and original idea's...so dont be a fag and diss Bot_40 for having his own views on ported maps.
Overall, like many over people i do not rate this map very highly, it doesnt have that.. "X factor" about it and doesnt feel "Unrealy" enough for me..
Peace out Lads and Ladies.
08-08-2004 08:41 AM EDT
Fantastic comment Bot
08-08-2004 12:21 PM EDT
|Rating: 1.5|| |
bot40 you crack me up.
gonna save that comment.
redfist..ghostwheel... give up... please.
or else we will let bot40 loose again :)
i wonder what quakemap they'll dig up now.
08-08-2004 01:52 PM EDT
You can put a ferrari engine in a yugo but then you just have a fast peice of shit.
08-08-2004 02:39 PM EDT
|Redfist, get off the cross. We need the wood.|