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DM-Deck16Advanced 
Map Info


 
File Namedm-deck16advanced.zip
AuthorGrimm MacGregor
GametypeUT Deathmatch
Date Added05-29-2001
File Version1.00
File Size2.26 mb
Player Count2-16
Map DescriptionA visually superior version of the original deck16 for UT. Roomier, with a skylight roof revealing a twilight, star filled sky. Lava replaces the slime and hidden triggers change the music to up to 3 different imported techno tracks. Some considerable improvements over the orginal deck
Review Rating1
User Rating4.5
Overall Rating2.0



 
Review


ReviewerMister_ProphetAwe Score: 0.0/3
Date01-31-2003Build Score: 0.5/3
Review SchemaCast Score: 0.5/3
User Point: +1
Overall Score: 2.0/10

I felt like getting this review out of the way, I wont take long. This is one of 80 billion versions of the infamous DM-Deck16 map. Most of this map is basically reused brushes from the original, and since practically nothing exists that is original, it gets a 0 for awe. Flat out, NO conversion map, especially a unimproved conversion of a overated-below average original, should ever recieve any score above a 1.

Visually, this map is identical to Deck16. A higher ceiling and skybox were added, and lighting changed a good deal. Slime pits have been replaced with terribly fugly lava (If I see one more person making lava with a transparent surface, Im gonna strangle them infront of their parents). Longer halls are added in some parts. Nothing new is worth mentioning and this map does no better than the other billion Deck remakes out there.

Deck16 had lackluster gameplay to begin with, and this map does nothing to improve it. No reason to expect anything fresh in terms of fun factor here.

The Prophets Verdict: This map is nothing more than yet another Souless conversion. I wont even trouble myself with posting a screenshot, there isnt nothing new that you havent seen a zillion times already. Avoid this map if you can help it, but I know all you Deck16 worshippers are already playing this on some server, talking about how ghey I am and how awesome Deck really is. On a personal note, this map was made by Grimm, and she has done better work. I dont know why Grimm felt the need to waste time with another one of THESE maps. The author has yet to release an interesting map, but her ability is far above the effortless skill it takes to puke one of these up.
No review screenshot available
 
Map Comments


Grimm MacGregor
01-02-2003 04:18 AM MST
 
Not just another rebuild of Deck16. This deck handles all the competition. The Grimm Brothers use the Deck16][ Advanced exclusively, having deleted the stock Deck16][ from their harddrives. This version of deck was actually improved upon the original. Seriously. By chance when editing this map. I found numerous instances of overlapping brushes and the occasional cheap shortcuts that I tried to remedy by moving things until they were precisely aligned, this resulted in better fps while playing. I repathed the map and changed the gloomy lighting to warm oranges and blues instead of the usual sick green. In keeping with the other Grimm Brother Productions levels, you can change the music ingame. This deck is for you Deck16 freaks that wont stop playing this level, enjoy.

Vertigo
02-01-2003 03:35 AM MST
Rating: 5 
Why evrybody loves Deck 16? Why is so good? For me is another map!


fragswill
02-01-2003 05:46 PM MST
Rating: 1 
For me this is map I make score according number 16 deck also different number

Angus MacGregor
02-02-2003 05:58 PM MST
Rating: 6 
what did he say? ^^^^

i'm not a big fan of deck16 in any incarnation but this one does play better and looks a lot nicer than the orginal. the lava beats the slime anyday.

its deck16, only better. and the music tracks are cool

ive been playing online more than grimm lately and ive seen this version on dedicated deck16 servers a few times

remember to read the readme to find where the invisible triggers are for the music

UnknownSpecies8472
02-02-2003 07:12 PM MST
Rating: 6 
i love deck and this remake is not really a remake, its a modification to the orginal. you can snipe from the window ledges way up high in the new ceiling if you use jumpboots. I dont think it plays better than the first, but its bigger, which is nice, and the weapons are laid out differently, so you need to learn it all over again
Better than most deck16 variants out there, worth a look

deathbringer
02-02-2003 10:10 PM MST
Rating: 5 
"Deck16 had lackluster gameplay to begin with" - the map may be guilty of lackluster appearance, but not gameplay. Few other maps are so playable with such a wide range of players (from 2-16). The review of this map seems harsh in and of itself, and the reviewer's opinion of the original Deck16 that is contrary to the general public probably does not do this map justice.

SirTahngarth
02-02-2003 11:09 PM MST
Rating: 0 
I agree with the reviewer on this one. While I don thave the same general opinion about remakes, I do have that opinion about remakes that suck and dont make the map any better. This is just a cosmetically enhanced version of a map that sucked to begin with. I cant figure out why people like it so much. it has DECENT flow at best, looks like shit, and DOESNT play just as good with 2 as it does with 16. its too big for 2 and too small for 16. This map doesnt do anything but make a crappy map look prettier. Im giving it a 0 instead of a 1 just to counter the higher scores. Liandri is 100 times better and I dont even like that map all that much.

Louise
02-03-2003 12:48 AM MST
Rating: 10 
To balance that I give a 10.

CrystalfaT
02-03-2003 04:30 AM MST
Rating: 0 
Nothing Special at ALL about this map, A waste of time and space. Methinks the Grimm peeps needs to have a word with themselves.Now go into the corner, Sit down, and think about what you've done!!!

Bot40
02-04-2003 10:56 AM MST
Rating: 1 
Ermm origional deck had poor gameplay. Some nice layout ideas but far too overscaled. Took about 10 mins to run from one end to the other.
Maps that are remakes of other peoples work should be marked on what they improve on the original, this doesn't add much at all.
btw, louise is a retard.

The Killer[NL]
02-08-2003 04:16 AM MST
Rating: 8 
I'M Not A Fan Of Deck16 But I Like This Map:)

skottoutlawskot
03-15-2003 01:55 PM MST
Rating: 9 
1.) who ever reviewed this map, KISS MY ASS and its creators ass, thsi si a good level. @.) it is really good in my opinion to enough to deserve an 9, but more could have been done. not to be mean, but its not as good as my Deck16 is (still in develpoment.

Claw
03-15-2003 07:44 PM MST
Rating: 0 
Where are the SS when you need them? I want someone to brutally suppress this noob.

<[DecoY]>
04-16-2003 05:28 PM MDT
Rating: 0 
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Master roshi
07-10-2003 09:39 PM MDT
Rating: 5 
There are new platforms and teleporters. The lights have different colors. And there are too many warheadlaunchers.

Shao
07-11-2003 11:18 AM MDT
Rating: 0 
I Hate people Who remake Deck16. In Truth Deck16 is already a good map. why advanced? and why not

Deck16][?

-texture bad
-gameplay=sucks
-worse than the first

Eddy Merckx "The Ripper"
01-26-2004 03:41 PM MST
Rating: 4 
Why is the original a popular classic on many servers???
I don't get it

Sicko Teddy
01-26-2004 09:36 PM MST
Rating: 2 
"Poor gameplay" "Poor gameplay" on the old deck!?
????? OO
No it's your poor computer , my Unreal friend!!!

About that map
I don't find anithing advanced about it. If you would make the whole level go upsidedown and then to rotate , or something.. errm..
Anyway it is too poor.

Don't be lazy to make your own level(or at least make a remake of any other level,that is less popular. I saw the deck 16 being hosted all over the place!!! that's enoughf!
2 is that you made some work..(+and it works)
)',

littlebunny
08-15-2004 09:21 PM MDT
Rating: 8.5 
I have never really been a fan ofdeck 16 but this gives it a better score for me. I really like the lava change on it and it dosent lock up on me like the original. I would give it a better score but it is an original and it has too many cloned versions

Sir Xavius
01-02-2006 12:51 PM MST
Rating: 7 
After you master Deck 16][, the game gets boring: just work your way to the sniper's well, position your bots to guard the way up, and hunt-and-peck your way to victory.

However, this level rework put me down a couple of notches on the ego chart. Now you can have enemy bots spawn near the RLs not too far from you on your level in the sniper's well. Plus, there's an even HIGHER well above you that you can only reach by teleporting from the lowest point on the map. (Look at the first screenshot in the review.)

This map brings back the challenge to Single Player mode on Deck 16. There's better flow (it's actually harder to get backed into corner), and camping places are a little harder to defend. No longer can you kneel down and just pick off the enemies that try to make it up the ramps to you.

This map is in my permanent Single Player rotation for 6-12 bots.


 
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